Jon & Kate plus 8 *series finale tonight 11/23*

[*Nadine*]

I was watching this last night while I was running at hte gym and it broke my heart. I had to fight back the tears hearing them both speak seperately.

 

Obviously Kate was a biatch but Jon was a pushover and let her take the lead for who knows how long. And his retalliation is to cheat on her?? It takes two to make a sepearation adn they both definitely played a big part in their marriage ending.

 

I just think its so sad.

[DanielleNDerek]

Maureen just said what i was thinking perfectly. I feel the same way. And i also dont think it was all Kate's fault. Jon definately shares the blame. I do hope that they both focus on their kids and try to get along in front of their kids.

[ErinB]

I have a friend that says Jon has gone Ed Hardy. Every time you look at him he's got on an Ed Hardy shirt and now the earring and spiky hair, LOL

 

I think Kate has really been portrayed as a bitch. I've certainly thought so, but maybe it wasn't 100% fair. She came from a very poor family and wanted a better life for her kids, whatever it took. I was raised by a divorced mother with a dad who really wasn't in the picture much when I was a child. There is no way I could have ever done half the things her kids have gotten to do and if I had had siblings it would have been impossible. I do hate that every show is now just a half hour commercial.

 

Add to all of that the stress of having not only 8 children but two sets of multiples and not having help or support from your spouse. She could have handled herself and her emotions much better but I can kind of understand her frustration. From what I have heard and even in interviews, Jon admits he didn't have any direction or goals and that Kate put him on track. WHile they were having kiddo special days, they should have been having couple special days and been working on their marriage.

 

I lost a lot of respect for Jon with the way he was acting last night. It was so self-centered. He needs to do what is best for him, he needs a job offer, oh and whatever for the kids. He is supposedly moving to New York so how much time will he really be spending with those kids? He admitted that he was too passive and let things go on for too long but then that was it. WTH? I'm a believer in you make your bed and you lie in it. He signed up to be a husband and a father and on TV. Now that he has teh money and fame and it is inconvienent he shouldn't just bail so he can go snowboard all day.

[*Nadine*]

I agree Erin. I cannot imagine the beast I would turn into if I had to raise 8 kids that were two sets of multiples. I dont think anyone can judge how kate was really, of course its a tv show and her being nuts/angry half the time makes the ratings better. Granted they have a ton of extra help so you would think she would have handled herself better but she still is the mom and like Erin said, she just wanted a better life for them than she had.

 

and jon.. whatever. He is being a greedy man right now and i dont have respect for him either.

[Jacqueline]

i didnt read all the posts but i hate that they are doing this ( i wish they'd drop the show, go to counseling and try to save this marriage. im not sure if they have tried yet as far as counseling goes, but i feel like they are giving up too easy. i felt bad for them both last night watching it. i think the media plays a huge roll in all of this, and i wish jon and kate could have known when to pull the plug on the show b4 it got this far. kate was tuff, absolutely, but im sure jon had flaws too, neither were perfect or this wouldnt be happening. i am a firm believer in theres two sides to every story. oh i think im in denial, i keep thinking this isnt true! blahahahaaaahaha

 

ok here is my solution: jon - grow a set of balls and stand up to kate when she treats you like a child, and kate- take a valium.

[DanielleNDerek]

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Originally Posted by Jacqueline ok here is my solution: jon - grow a set of balls and stand up to kate when she treats you like a child, and kate- take a valium.

love your solution!

[Celina]

Honestly, I think they were fighting an uphill battle from day one. Kate has a strong personality and Jon is passive. Eventually they could have gotten to this point with or without kids - just because of their different personalities. How old were they when they had Maddie and Kara? Mid to late twenties? That's early (in my opinion) to have two kids. At 37 I'm still trying to figure out how to communicate to my husband. Tack on six more babies by the age of 32 and HOLY COW you really have a mess on your hands!

 

What TLC should have done was make sure there was some relationship counseling/parenting help for them both during this whole process. It's sad cause it could have worked, but they really were in for it! The counseling could have kept Kate grounded and could have helped Jon find his voice. That would have been more informative to watch. Now all they are showing like someone else said, is them going on different trips and celebrities. They get all this special treatment because of the show and all we get to see is Kate freaking out and the kids having meltdowns while Jon just stands by numbed out to the whole thing. I guess that is what makes television work though!

 

Hopefully the kids come through on this one. Things are only going to get crazier for them.

[ErinB]

I think they were 22 and 24 when the twins were born. That is really young! If Jon is 32 and the little kids are 5 then he would have been 26-27 when they were born and the twins are 4 years older so 22-23. Kate is a year or two older than Jon. I think they got married a year or two before that, so 20-ish.

 

I know that a lot of people have children at a young age and that there are pros and cons to being younger and older parents. I am not trying to offend anyone or their choice. I just think that having children that young makes it hard for some people to find themselves. Perhaps if they had waited a little longer Jon could have found his voice and Kate could have learned that she can't always have things her way. IMO Jon is acting like a bratty kid right now or the 22 year old that thinks he knows everything about everything, LOL

 

I've often wondered why a doctor would do a treatment like IUI on someone so young, like Kate was. I guess she must have had some major complications from her PCOS.

[sarafish81]

What a sad show last night. I was wondering too, are Jon, Kate and the kids going to have any support system from their families to get through this - (i.e.) especially with all the articles and interviews regarding how Jodi left the show because TLC wanted to pay her a salary and Kate was against it - it also seems like the parents of Jon and Kate aren't in the picture, nor are any of their friends/babysitters that they've had in the past due to Kate's craziness over who gets paid (depending on what you read/believe) or due to the fact that they've shut people out of their lives for other reasons.

[Yari]

I saw online that the show is officially on hiatus right now. They have stopped filming.