"Twilight" Series and Movie Discussion--WARNING! Spoilers!

[~Stephanie~]

Savannah, you have have a very good point, I didn't really look at it from his perspective like that, only hers. I'm off to read Midnight sun, thanks Yael! Perhaps I will have a different perspective after that!

[BillysBride]

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Originally Posted by jackobelle I agree that Edward did what he thought was best fo Bella, but he did leave her unprotected with the 2 nomads still around...maybe he thought they weren't a threat though...I am still 100% team Edward, but I like Jacob too. I was annoyed with him AND Bella in the 2nd book. I thought Jacob was a bit manipulative with Bella even after she told him she only wanted to be friends, but I also thought Bella was leading him on a bit, she knew he had feelings for her. At first I thought Jacob was going to imprint on the girl wolf, but as soon as Bella was preggers, I knew he'd imprint on the baby, especially after he was saying someone in his pack imprinted on a child...I know it is not supposed to be sexual or anything until they are grown up, but I still find it a little creepy.

He definitely did leave her unprotected and that is a fact that was all on him. BUT, in his defense (fictional character that needs defending? where's my medication?) he had no reason to believe Victoria gave a damn about Bella. He didn't realize her attachment to James was that serious OR that she would think to act against Bella in retaliation against HIM as the man who killed James. As far as Laurent goes...he left town as a friend basically. As a nomad, no one would suspect that he would even have reason to come back to Forks, let alone want to harm Bella. He didn't before, and I think if he had stumbled upon her in any other situation other than alone in the middle of nowhere, he wouldn't have even been tempted. Same odds as any other vampire finding her alone and unprotected..just instinct to do what they naturally do. Could have happened to anyone. Just stuff that poor Eddie had no way of ever guessing.

What I DO wonder is why Alice didn't see anything. Other than the fact that she can't see the wolves and they were such a presence in Bella's life at that point I suppose. Still, you would have thought there would have been something about Victoria that slipped through the cracks of her visions...

Ignore me at any time, girls. I'm addicted and I love discussing all the books, so I tend to ramble in case ya can't tell. *how embarassing*

[YaelM]

Savannah - i love all your comments and insights to the books - please dont stop!!

[jax_the_beach_bride]

Oh boy.... There are so many things to say about that 2nd book! I just started reading the first book in Edward's perspective so that's getting pretty good... I must say though, I am not one of those who didn't like the movie... I actually liked of but new moon will be better because of the better budget etc...

[YaelM]

BTW i cant remember the 3rd book - ha its only been like 2 weeks but since i read all 4 in a row in a couple weeks i get them all mushed LOL

 

Jax - are you enjoying midnight sun?

[jax_the_beach_bride]

Yeah it's great so far... Thanks so much! I'm at work right now and I can't open the link on my iPhone and it's killing me!! Ha! I will just have to wait tip I go home

[YaelM]

i totally read it at work since it was a PDF it looks like work LOL

[jax_the_beach_bride]

Haha smooth move! Well I'm jealous... But it's life and I will just have to wait :|

 

Btw... I was talking to my friend and she doesn't get why rose hates Bella so much... I told her it was not so much that she hated bella but moreso jealous that bella could have children and she couldn't .... Do u think she's also jealous that edward is so infatuated with bella instead of her even though she has emmett?!

[BillysBride]

Awww, thanks Yael! I can talk about this junk all day. FH is tired of me. lol

 

I don't even blame Twilight's failure on the budget. They had like 35 mil, which by industry standards is nothing...but can anyone even look at that movie and tell where $35,000,000 went? lol I know I can't.

 

It was all Catherine Hardwicke's fault. She had this "vision" of what she wanted Twilight to look like....quirky and campy I think were the words she used. She didn't WANT much CGI and spent money on amazing shit like having the Forks, Wa sign duplicated and adding trees to scenes. I'm not kidding.

 

I just feel like finding an address to send her a nasty-gram saying "You stupid ho, you screwed up my book!". Seriously, she sucks. And has anyone gotten the dvd? There is a voice over cast commentary for one of the Play options, and I swear, it is soooooo revealing. Rob P and Kristen Stewart are funny, a little embarassed..but giving some good insights into the characters and what they were thinking when they filmed this or that. Hardwicke sounds and acts like she did way too much acid in the 60's. Which would actually explain a lot about that first flick. bah!

 

Jax- In Eclipse, remember when the Cullens "babysit" Bella overnight and Rose comes in to talk to her? She tells her the story of how she became a vamp and just why she "hates" her. I thought it was kind of funny because hearing the story, its clear she doesn't really hate the girl, BUT she refuses to say she doesn't.lol Its like equal parts jealousy (like Edward said) and just plain anger. She's jealous for two reasons; Bella is human with all the opportunities that were taken from her when Rose was changed. And second, Carlisle thought there was a chance Rose and Edward would fall in love. Edward was never interested and made it clear from the start. Now, they make it clear that Rose isn't jealous because she truly wanted Edward, it was more the fact that EVERYONE she had ever known wanted her and when he didn't, it stung the ole female vanity. Then along comes mousy, average looking Bella and Edward is head over heels. Rose can't understand it and it makes her doubt the one thing she's always been secure in; her wondrous beauty or whatever. (again, they should have gotten a different chick to play the part cuz Nikki Reed is pretty, but not all that)

 

Last part of her Bella hate is that she is just plain pissed and shocked that Bella would willingly throw away all Rose herself has ever wanted. Remember the vote scene after they come back from Italy and Bella asks the family to vote on her becoming a vamp? Rose says "No" but asks Bella to wait and hear her out, then goes on to say that she wishes someone had been there to vote no for her at the time. She thinks its insane and infuriating that Bella treats all the wonders of humanity so casually and is willing to throw it away for love.

[jax_the_beach_bride]

That's the way that I see it too! My friend is more reading it surface wise so I don't think she catches all of that... And don't get me started with Hardwicke!!!! There was one behind the scenes shot where she is wearing a nurse's hat and looks absolutely ridiculous! Btw.. I must agree I think she must have been doing some heavy drugs in the sixties because she reminds me of Ozzy Osbourne.. How does she get jobs?