well I promosed an update as soon as the shirts arrived .......... one word DISASTER !! The shirts are a perfect fit in every way except for the length, the are like boob tubes !!! Its a good job we still have our sense of humour We followed the measuring guide to the letter but the shirts are not the right length, for length the tell you to measure from the shoulder to the thumb we did this but still they do not fit Back to the drawing board