Success!! Fi found these puppies today while we were out at the Le Chateau outlet looking for his ties (we also go his tie for $10!!). The first pics are the Kate Spade's I was eyeing that were $325, and the last pair are my $30 Le Chateau's!! They look a little darker in the pic than they really are, but they are a LITTLE darker than I wanted. But for $30, I can afford to replace them if I find something better!