Yeah I think that since I know it's coming and we've talked about it so much, it won't be as much of a surprise as it is for some, but I still think there will be some surprise to it. Since we picked the ring out in February, I really expected to have it by now and like you said every special occasion or trip I thought it would come... and it didn't. So now I've kind of let it go a bit and I think I will be kind of surprised. I'm not really one who needs a big surprise though, it'll happen when it happens.