BillysBride

Quote: Originally Posted by Nikki07 I was always under the impression that the on-site WC did the symbolic ceremony?? Maybe she's confused....lol. So what is she saying, you have to provide someone? I wouldn't settle for that unless it's what you wanted! Crazy! I'm about to email her AGAIN and suggest just that. What kinda floored me was the whole "we've never had that request"...umm...ok, so you dealt with a bunch of brides that weren't members of BDW so they didn't know any better and just paid you people four hundred bucks. haha Heck, I'm willing to bet I could find someone to come in from off site and do it for less than $400. Geez! Thanks girls. Glad I'm not being a whiney brat and this really is unusual.

They always blame the next girlfriend/wife. Always. I dated a guy for more than a year whose divorce was FINAL the week before we met. THE WEEK BEFORE. She still blamed me and talked about how I was the reason their family was torn apart. Got into his car while they were both attending a FUNERAL and got my number out of his phone-then proceeded to call me AT WORK and just sit there for a full minute before telling me how I was "splitting up" her family. They just gotta believe that if it didn't work out, there has to be a reason like him cheating...it couldn't just be, oh, I dunno her being a BITCH or, geez, stuff just not working out. It's always cuz he was cheating. lol You're right to laugh. I hope he sent her ass back a big ole "LOL!" tee hee

Ugh! Ofcourse, I knew this would happen. It's only to be expected, but I'm still cranky about it. Granted we're only just getting started and there will be FAR more significant issues that come up before it's all said and done. I do realize that for sure. Anyway, finally yesterday morning, our TA Deb sends an email forwarding a response she received from the corporate wedding coordinator for our hotel chain. They have 3 properties in Mexico, and she had already given me the head's up that most likely the woman I'd been dealing with is not the person who would be assigned to oversee our wedding. She was right and as per the email from the corporate coordinator, after they get our signed contract, she'll be assigning someone to us. All fine. Well, irritant #1 was that she sent the open bar options package. Other than the a couple of lines with actual dollar amounts, it made no sense. OK, fine...I can ask for clarification and work with whatever language barrier arises. It wasn't so bad. Irritant #2- I send back full details about what type of ceremony we need, projected number of guests, etc. I'd already sent it to the other chick, but fine..this is someone new who is obviously in a better position to get things done. Fine. Well, she comes back asking if we require the services of a minister. I say that we are open to whomever from the staff conducting the ceremony since it is "only" symbolic. An ordained minister costs $400 on top of the ceremony package. A significant amount of change in our pockets. She hits me back saying (basically) that they've never had that request before and staff members normally don't have anything to do with the ceremonies. She is going to take it to the sales director and get back to me. So, I guess other than just being irritated (since that truly is the only word that works), I'm wondering if anyone else has been told this. Being on BDW has done great things for kind of tailoring my expectations about this and that, but I'm thinking maybe seeing so many brides post about how their weddings were officiated by hotel staff members has given me the wrong impression. If this is how they roll, hell- I'm tempted to have one of our family members do it. We have a couple of deacons:)

Quote: Originally Posted by starchild share that beat of love... LOL I could do this all night, I think his lyrics are burned into my head! LOL! Oooh, me too! I remember that song from...wow, I was maybe 8 or 9 and my older brothers would jam it in the basement rec room! Craziness....I think it might be my favorite of MJ's. Looks like I'll be spending a lot of time on Limewire and Youtube tonight (sigh). Go figure..I finally get assigned a personal coordinator from my site today and I have no desire to do wedding stuff.

Ahhh...sookie-sookie, Star!!! Getcha groove on girl!! "when ya feel that beat, then we can ride the boogie!"

My house is Michael Jackson central for the weekend. A lil' Jackson 5, then The Wall album, and a full day of Thriller.....gotta be done. Nothing and no one like the man and never will be.

Right, Star...

Yea, I'm trying to keep up too.. TMZ irritates me. On the one hand, they are saying that he was already gone when paramedics arrived and they never got a heartbeat back. On the other, they are saying they "just got off the phone with Joe Jackson who says "he's not doing well" If the man's son just died, why would he say that? Let alone to TMZ. I'm thinking it's true, just don't like their reporting style. At any rate...RIP Mike...the world's talent margin will NEVER be the same. *update* MSNBC is saying he is in a coma. I'd prefer to believe THEM vs. TMZ, but I guess we wait and see...

I've only seen confirmed reports from the ambulance driver statements...nothing on him being dead yet. As for allegations of molestation....I try not to go there if I don't truly know the situation. Dunno if he did it, hope he didn't and all I can do is respect the talent. Theres too much gossip, black mail, extortion, lies, and cover ups, hype for free publicity, misdirection and just plain b.s. in Hollywood for me to sit in judgement with any clarity to form an opinion.

Wow...sincerely hoping this isn't true and if it is, that he makes a full recovery.

Welcome aboard and happy planning! You'll love it here.

Nadine- I think it's great that you are bringing what you've learned/felt from previous experiences into your own dealings with your bridal party. I wish everyone did that..not sure why they don't since it seems like common sense! I've never seen the point in being so...regimented. I mean, who am I to tell someone how to wear their hair or how their makeup should be applied? YES, I want great pics, but damn, if someone's face doesn't look the way I think it should, that's on THEM regardless of if they are standing next to me or not! hahaha

Quote: Originally Posted by amygirl1169 I think this forum will do that to you - you see how beautiful everyone else's dresses are and you start to wonder about your choice - I've been doing the same thing! I started sending my maid of honor links to new dresses and she kept saying you're crazy, your dress looks amazing on you! I'm sure we'd all love to have a million dresses if we could! I've seen your dress in another thread and it's beautiful! Just keep everything in perspective and stop second guessing yourself! You will be glowing on your day in whichever dress you chose because you're marrying the love of your life! Yup-what she said. I think when you TRULY are UNhappy with your dress, theres no making yourself happy with it. I've fallen in and out of love with dresses (and bought them) twice now, and then the third one is FINALLY THE ONE. I know it is because even though I love a bunch of others and sometimes wonder if something like them is the direction I should have gone in, nothing makes me NOT love MY dress. I look at it and fall in love all over again. If you feel torn, then you love your gown. When you don't love it, you know it cuz you aren't conflicted at all. If you think about it and think theres even a possibility that you're just reacting to seeing so many beautiful gowns all the time, then do yourself a huge favor and stop looking! It will drive ya nuts, seriously! You're dress is gorgeous, perfect for a beach wedding and most of all WAY flattering on you!

Quote: Originally Posted by deefalvey Ok so here is a pic of my original e-ring and I LOVED it. I love love love princess cut. I loved the three stones and how the diamonds around the band made the ring look so delicate. So over the weekend we went to the jeweler to do the wedding bands (one from FI and one from FI's kids). They were going to have to custom make them so they fit flush, kinda like puzzle pieces. When we were there FI mentioned wanting to upgrade the diamonds for our 1st Anniversay. The guy told him if he did that, there is a chance that the wedding bands wont fit anymore.... FI told me to try on some others, I was hesitant to do so because I really liked the ring I had, until I found my new one!!! Please bear with the pics they were taken from my cell Here is just the e-ring And the ring with the bands on each side my FI's mom reminded me that like 2 years ago, I ripped out a picture of a Tiffany ring and put in our kitched drawer for FI for when he was ready...my new ring is a scaled down version of the Tiffany ring... Tiffany & Co. | Engagement Rings | Tiffany Novo | United States Hey, it's GORGEOUS....and just like mine! hahahaha Ring twins! Though I think your stone is a bit larger..(got hate? lol) I had thought about doing the two bands thing (one on top/one on bottom) for the final look, but not sure. Will probably wait and just let him get me a second wedding band for our anniversary. Listen to me...about to tell this man what to get me. lolol

Quote: Originally Posted by Morgan So we can't expect to see Savannah and Billy + 4 any time soon? LOL..girrrrrrrrl, ahh....HELLZ nah.

I think the only time a "must" comes into play is if you are trying to qualify for a free wedding package. We are doing a regular wedding package. Quote: But I wonder if you just went through with the marriage (rather than the renewal of vows) and then got "remarried" in the US, what the effect would be? Not sure what you mean by this. Sorry! Just confused. You either have a lawful, civil ceremony that is legally binding, or you have a vow renewal/symbolic ceremony which is is not legally binding. As far as the wording of the ceremony, any resort worth their salt is going to allow you to contribute to the phrasing. There should be an exchange of information, even if it's only after you arrive; an opportunity for you to have some say in how your ceremony plays out and is worded. There is nothing about the "law" involved in a symbolic ceremony, so any stipulations would be ENTIRELY resort oriented and vary by location. My resort doesn't care and will give instructions to whoever acts as officient on anything we want to include in our ceremony. For instance, we are incorporating a broom jump-that's definitely not something that is included in a regular Mexico vow renewal package, but we said we wanted it in, and they are working it in. Thats what your coordinator is for; to make sure your requests and wishes as bride and groom are taken care of. If they simply can't do something, they'll let you know. You're the wedding couple-the guests. It's your wedding. Make your wishes known to your resort coordinator and simply see what she says.

Awww..you both looked great! (have I mentioned how much I love your hair?) Congrats, Mrs!! Oh, and btw..did you notice your officient looked like Judge Judy? lol

I have a theory about rsvp's and why people don't respond. The people that don't respond but SAY (either verbally or maybe through some other means) that they are coming will be the ones who don't come. lol I think that they don't send it back in writing so that it's less "formal" and when they don't end up going they get off on a technicality mentally or something. hahaha

Awww..definitely a "glowing" bride! Congratulations!!!

Generally, I stay away from all things about this show in terms of public discussion. lol I learned my lesson early on (people can be really rude and insensitive in ways you cannot even imagine) and to be honest, I wasn't all that keen on watching it after the first few times. It alternately gave me a few new ideas on our own situation, irritated me, and made me thankful that I "only" have 4:) BUT, it's funny....the judgements when people have a life on "reality" t.v. I have absolutely NO doubt that while a LOT of public perception is dead on about these two and their lives, just as much of it is production spin, misinterpretation and just plain a lack of knowledge about walking in someone else's shoes. I DO think they had big time problems long before the kids, or the show came along- many couples have problems even before marriage. They don't go away with time and life stressors; they multiply. But having said that, I definitely think for OUR situation, having your life open to public scrutiny would add an UNIMAGINABLE amount of stress to our lives. Seriously. As a parent, you're already on duty 24/7. To then subject yourself to a situation where even private time..a few moments here or there, constant worry about how whatever you say or how you respond to something is going to be interpretated by every stranger you meet on the street, a WEAK moment when you lash out at someone in frustration ..to have all of that going into the pot? For sh*t's sake, I cannot IMAGINE. For real. So yea..I think the show was a bad thing to continue at some point. I ABSOLUTELY agree that being broke would have added a whole different dimension to their stress level and contracts being what they are, I can't honestly say that they could have agreed to 1 yr or 2, then squirreled money away so they could afford to quit. BUT, I think some other options would have been helpful and the opportunities that celebrity afford you can be taken advantage of if you're resourceful and smart about it. At some point, the benefit of continued cash flow via the show had to outweigh the continued STRESS on the marriage. It could not have helped. COULDN'T have. I've watched the show and thought of all the ways this chick is a bitch in my eyes, but you know what? She has a personality type that can come off that way, but is ABSOLUTELY beneficial when it comes to keeping ones sanity in a situation like hers. The stress that she is under is unlike any one of us will ever know and how she deals with it is to be regimented and controlling. Does NOT make it right, but I'm not in her shoes and heck no..I don't like the way she comes off. But I'll grant her that she may have damn good reason for being the way she is at times. I can't look at either of them and lay blame, I seriously can't.

LOL- too funny. I just posted about this in another thread. Most couples do do it before, but we're doing our legal day after we return from Mexico. There is absolutely no reason you "have" to do it before...I think traditionally speaking, most just like to have everything all signed sealed, delivered and what not when they return from their wedding trip. The only thing my FH has truly voiced an emotional opinion about was that the first time we say vows to each other be on our TRUE wedding day; not some legality we have to take care of because the govt says so. So we'll be doing a vow renewal/symbolic ceremony in Mexico, then hit the courthouse the week after we come back. As for people feeling jipped or whatever--theres no reason they should feel that way. But truly, theres no reason to even tell anyone anything about the legalities of it. Most won't know or think to ask. As far as they'll know, your wedding day is your wedding day. If you are worried overall, I'd say adopt the "don't ask, don't tell" policy:) But otherwise, do it after you get home since theres no reason not to!

You don't need any documentation to do a symbolic/vow renewal ceremony in Mexico. In fact, we're doing ours after the fact because FH feels strongly about the first time we say our vows be during a religious ceremony with our own vows-not "in front of some judge in a robe" The only thing the resorts care about is that you understand the vow renewal/symbolic ceremony is not legally binding. They want you fully aware that in the eyes of the law, it doesn't count. So we'll do it there where it counts to US, then back here at the courthouse the week after we get home.

Most of the ladies here on the forum choose to take their dress as a carry on. For more info, check out this thread: http://bestdestinationwedding.com/forum/t6297 If you want to actually pack your gown, there are some pretty detailed instructions on this website: Packing Your Dress for a Destination Wedding

Oh, that is just GORGEOUS!! And it so suits you! Your smile says it all, lady. Well done!

OK girls..I WANT, MUST HAVE, DESIRE and am COMMITTED TO finding some red polka dot peep toes to go with this damn dress. The more "retro" the better. Thing is, I cannot deal with a heel over 3". Just can't. I keep seeing the CUTEST stuff with like 5" heels and a.) I'm 5'6. Have never worn more than a 3" heel and don't want to end up with Billy looking like an Oompa Loompa next to me. He wouldn't care, but I'm all about photo symmetry, tee hee. And anyway, I don't want to fall on my hindquarters trying to walk around the slick courthouse floor any how. So the hunt continues...if anybody see's anything, please-give a shout!