BillysBride

There are rumors circulating that Chloe WILL die...I haen't heard that from Daniel, so I'm just callin it a rumor for now. I know at least one of the soap rags is reporting it. He hasn't said, and I sorta hate asking specific bombshell stuff like that, so I'll just wait for him to mention it. lol..I'm a punk. On today's Canadian show, Cane back pedals with Jill, saying that he can't believe twenty four hours ago, he was ready to break up his baby's family and leave Chloe for Lily. Ooh, son..if u only knew. He'll find out the truth on Friday, so ...guess we just gotta hold on til then! Wondering how he'll take it...it's gonna be bad. Big Daddy Cane might lose it and kill somebody. Hey, maybe that's how Chloe dies! hahahahaha..shit, I wish.

Kaylee- why were your old employers quads taken away from them, do you know? I mean the actual reason? Well, if the state takes this other chick's babies away, I hope they have good homes in place for them. I can't find it in my heart to just wish someone's children to be taken from them just for the sake of them being away from her. IF it means they are in a better situation, then that's one thing. My young brother and sister are both adopted (my parents adopted them after having 7 of us biologically) and I can't imagine what would have become of them in the system, especially as minority children. There is a HUGE difference in America between Caucasion babies placed for adoption and minority children. White babies are still in high demand, whereas minority children can languish in the system til they reach their majority. Foster care is often as much as they can hope for, and I don't necessarily wish just any old foster care situation on ANY child. I'm just saying that I don't know this woman OR her situation well enough to arbitrarily say I want her kids taken out of her care. I don't know what awaits them in the system. It may be better for them, or it may be worse. The entire thing just makes me sad.

HELL nah, you aren't overreacting. He was being an ASS, plain and simple. A.) it's not like you're too big to wear any damn dress you please, and b.) even if you WERE (which, have I mentioned you're skinny?) then he DAMN WELL shouldn't be thinking that way. What on earth is wrong with guys when they pull this kind of crap? Ugh.

As someone who birthed a "litter", here's my take... I seen some type of story on her last week where they did an entire break down of her finances. (completely inappropriate if you ask me, but they did it). She is getting food stamps, but nothing else. That can't be said of a whoooooole lot of other people. She was awarded a financial settlement from her job when she was hurt in some type of riot. That's where she got the money for the procedure done. Something to keep in mind though (I used to work in insurance/BCBS of IL), IVF is an uncertain procedure. Most women choose to have multiple embryos transferred because the odds of success with just one or two are so small. It's a lot of money, and to transfer one embryo and just hope it takes is almost silly. I'm not sure how many she transferred...but I would imagine it wasn't her goal to have eight more children; she may have been out to have one. Then we get into, once you're pregnant with 8.....who chooses to terminate some of them and HOW do you make that choice and live with it? I couldn't, but that's a personal decision. If she's unstable, then yea..that's too bad..FOR THE KIDS. But otherwise, I see it as none of my business. My mom grew up as the oldest of sixteen kids, so I'm not one to lump every large family into the same category; my grandma was the wisest, most on the ball woman I've ever known and I can only hope to be half the mother she was. Anymore, people thinking having a big family is extreme..I've been told that I have one, and we've only got four (quadruplets, and no IVF involved and yes, they did give me an option ..rather a STRONG suggestion to abort one or two, I refused). I have a better than average insight into the types of shit people say to you, thinking that because your situation is out of the ordinary, they have a right to take a stab at analyzing your life...most of the time, they don't. I've had all KINDS of comments...from "Oh, you poor thing." to "Better you than me" It's really amazing. lol No one sets out to have "a litter"...sometimes, shit just happens. It really is quite painful and offensive to even see those types of comments to me, but I DO understand...people simply don't always know how such things happen. I wouldn't give up my "litter" for the world, and I figure God intended for me to have them, or they wouldn't all be here. So, I'm very hesitant to cast judgement on this chick, even though from all accounts there may be some mental instability at work. I worry more about the plastic surgeries she had to look like someone else..THAT points to a mental health problem, not so much that she wanted another kid and just so happened to end up with 8. But yea, if she's got issues, then that's a sad, sad thing for those kids. Either way, I just pray for them because they are all that matters. I guess what I'm trying to say is that with SO many rumors out there about this chick and NO ONE who truly knows her, it's hard for me to judge. It's easy for me to be concerned for the kids, so that's what I am. I wish them all the best. God bless 'em.

Girl, no..Chloe pulls through (unfortunately). I think she's the one that will actually tell Cane. I've been sitting on my couch screaming "Die, bitch-die!!" but that's just wishful thinking. lol And yea..it's Sharon. Makes no sense to me. You would think the boy had enough on his plate, but now he goes and does to Jack what he's already done to Cane. Dork. Cane and Lily are still set to have reunion sex...it will air on Feb. 27 in Canada, but not til the 2nd here in the states. I'm supposed to hear from Daniel sometime tonight, so if he offers any more info, I'll post it.

Hahahahaha..I love it! We're a POF (Plenty of Fish) match up! It was wierd because it turned out that we knew some of the same people (even my neighbors) so it escalated from there..but, basically, yea, we got together via the site.

lol...Billy, Billy, Billy.....putz. I love him though. BUT, did you guys know he's about to go off, get drunk and complicate the situation even more? Yup....sleeps with a certain blonde we all know. Mmmhmm.. WHY they are doing this is beyond me.

4b, 5 and 6 are way cute! Stop bein' so hard on yourself, girl! But I must say..you have my sympathies on "Dildo". lol

Ugh. I'm an ex-Navy wife and I do feel some of your pain. There may yet be something he can do...but I know how you feel having to sit and wait over the long weekend. Just not knowing anything when you have all this crap buzzing around in your head is torture. You're doing great though..you've got the right attitude (wait and see) and all you CAN do as far as he's concerned is just what you already did. Show your support and let him deal in his own way. As hard as it is for you, it's doubly so for him and obviously, you already know that. Just hang tight and see what happens. Update us when you know more!

I'm actually working on some...creative phrasing for our STD letter just because of this exact problem. I'm determined to let everyone know that we aren't "expecting" anything other than a yes or no and all they should be expecting is an invite. Period.

drat, double post

I lost my dad several years ago, but the loss is still very painful and always will be. Sorry to hear you are dealing with losing your father. I don't know how set you are on the idea of a dance, but just thought I'd let you know what I'm doing. In lieu of a father/daughter dance, since for ME there is just no one that would symbolize it the right way, I'm putting together a slide show of photos. Pics of me with my dad growing up, my father alone, doing things he enjoyed..I'm going to set it to Luther Vandross' "Dance With My Father" as a tribute because lyrically, the song is perfect for a child wishing with all her heart she had just that one last time with him. (Ok, tearing up typing this) Anyway, I just thought it would be a nice way of including memories of my dad in the wedding and sort of HAVING a moment with him even though he can't physically be there. Good luck to you. I hope you come to a decision you are comfortable with. I'll copy the lyrics to the song, just in case anyone doesn't know them and might want to do anything similar, even if it's just wording on ceremony programs or what have you. Back when I was a child, before life removed all the innocence My father would lift me high and dance with my mother and me and then Spin me around 'til I fell asleep Then up the stairs he would carry me And I knew for sure I was loved If I could get another chance, another walk, another dance with him I'd play a song that would never, ever end How I'd love, love, love To dance with my father again When I and my mother would disagree To get my way, I would run from her to him He'd make me laugh just to comfort me Then finally make me do just what my mama said Later that night when I was asleep He left a dollar under my sheet Never dreamed that he would be gone from me If I could steal one final glance, one final step, one final dance with him I'd play a song that would never, ever end 'Cause I'd love, love, love To dance with my father again Sometimes I'd listen outside her door And I'd hear how my mother cried for him I pray for her even more than me I pray for her even more than me I know I'm praying for much too much But could you send back the only man she loved I know you don't do it usually But dear Lord she's dying To dance with my father again Every night I fall asleep and this is all I ever dream

double posts!

I think it's important for a bride to be absolutely in love with her gown. NOW, that being said, it's not the same as having to go with the one you find that is expensive, but you love. If you can't find anything else that you ADORE other than the hugely expensive one? Then go for it. The most important thing being that you must love that damn dress! lol If you have time, look...look and look again. I think the fact that you are even questioning whether to get rid of the first dress is very telling. Sell it. Let it go and keep looking for another. I see you're getting married in November, so do some intensive searching over the next couple of months, but give yourself a deadline. Maybe you can find another, less expensive dress that you fall in love with and makes your maids cry. But..maybe you can't. In which case, you can still order the expensive one after you've sold the other. I'm a two dress bride. I let a dress hang in my closet for two months before realizing that I did not love it, would not love it and didn't WANT to love it even though it is a gorgeous gown and everyone thought it looked great on me. It's about how I feel in it and how I'll feel when it's over...I'm not taking any chances. I didn't order the gown that I FIRST fell in love with (that was CRAZY expensive) but I did shop around til I found one that I DO absolutely adore and I know I'll love it forever.

For ME, what makes TTD sessions so phenomenally different is the fact that..hey, that's a bride in her WEDDING GOWN out there gettin' it dirty, splashing around, lolling on trees and such. It sort of loses that sense of the unique for me when it's just a regular dress. I'm afraid I would feel like the photos didn't look like they had anything to DO with my wedding, and I very much want my TTD pics to be an extension of visible reminders I have of our wedding day. You just have to sit yourself down and think about what you're doing it for. If it's the experience of having photos on the beach, with your new hubby, in a different type of way...then it probably won't matter what you wear! You just have to get a feel for what you want to take away from the experience and make sure that what you're wearing (or not, tee hee) will help you bring that about.

It's tough for me when the complaints come from SOME people...my mom isn't the most supportive of it, but I do think she's coming around (heaven knows she's had enough time). I'm going into it KNOWING that the vast majority of people won't come..and being ok with it. I'm not trying to beg, cajole, or convince anybody to be there. You guys are right, it's amazing how people ASSUME a bunch of crap about it right off the jump, as if we're seriously asking them to pay thousands and thousands of dollars for a couple of days on the beach. We're not ritzy five star people, so one would THINK that folks would know we aren't trying to book the freakin Ritz or something. ANYway, let it roll off. A.) like everyone is saying, this isn't about anyone but the two of you, and B.) it's not like it would be some horrendous hardship for people to take their vacation some place..oh, I dunno, gorgeous and exotic. It's ballsy for people to approach you like that in response to the news and they should know better.

I'm very, very sorry for the pain you are experiencing. Nothing is easy with a break up, but this has to be doubly hard under the circumstances. You're a great example for all of us...I hope, if ever faced with anything similar, I can do what you're doing. Hold tight to your kids..they'll be your reason to stay strong. You're doing the right thing and sounds like you're a REAL mom! Blessings to you and yours.

Oh, and did I tell you to LIE your behind off? If I didn't, do that..ignore everything and everyone telling you that you can just explain it this way or that. NO, girl. Lie. Or better yet, say nothing. He's a man and he won't think twice about how much you paid for shoes of all things....they'll be part of the wedding ensemble and he will never raise an eyebrow, so don't you DARE be the one to bring it up. You got a good lookin' man and some good lookin' shoes...be happy and lie throug your teeth. That's all I'm sayin. lmao

Girrrrrrrrl, your ass better sleep in those things. You know I'm gonna keep it real with ya..lol. Wear them to bed, the grocery store.....JOG in those lil' ditties. You better do it all as expensive as they are, lmao. But I will grant you..they are beyond cute. And it took a lot of courage to Just Do It. My cheap ass would have just hot glued some mini roses from Joannes on some sling backs and called it a day.

As soon as I found out they were available, it was a no brainer. This is 100% for FH....I'll keep the sheer one and use the other for the toss garter. Love it that it can work as my something blue too.

Sure, I think it's all totally doable! I see a lot of pink and orange (or even fuschia and orange) brides. You wouldn't have a problem finding things to work with the colors at all. Most things can be worked out long before you reach your destination..it's amazing what many of the site coordinators are able to make happen as well.

Personalization is extra, but still...a pretty good deal. Now through Feb. 16th. $ 5.00 only Tote Bags - Sale ends February 16th, 2009

This woman got back to me with a quote on a SUNDAY NIGHT! She seems like a real gem to deal with. I'll be getting my flowers from her as well, likely doing the deposit next month. She recommended I get my order in by April (yes, for my May 2010 wedding!!) to ensure she would be able to get them done since she's filling up so quickly!

Quote: Originally Posted by MarieSam Aside from photographers, the couple participating or a previous DW groom/bride, I don't think many people understand the concept or beauty of a TTD session. Frankly, I had no idea what it was until I joined this forum, lol. But of course after seeing the amazing pictures and becoming a wedding photography obssessed whore ~ I am now determined to have my own fabulous TTD photoshoot!!! I too think you should show your mom some sample pictures, but even after that, she still may not understand. I think what makes the TTD session special is that it captures that exciting moment after all the wedding stress is gone and you and your new hubby can just enjoy the start of your lives together as husband and wife. Some of the best pics I've ever seen on this forum are in TTD sessions. So girl, if it's what you want to do, and FI is on board...then I say GO FOR IT!! These pics are of the two of you to enjoy and cherish. Although no one else may understand the importance or meaning behind them, who gives a rat's ass, JUST DO IT!!!! I completely agree with this. No one I mention it to for the first time, has ever even heard of them. They don't get it, not until and unless the see photos. My mom thinks the entire premise of a DW is a waste of money. lol My sister had hers two years ago, and my mom went but wasn't that thrilled about the entire thing. The beach in particular is just not her piece of cake and she would have rather had the wedding locally so that she could do all that mother of the bride stuff that normal weddings have. I just don't worry about it. As my baby sis says, "Do YOU". In other words, do what YOU want to do and what will make YOU happy at the end of it all. It's your wedding, your vision, your dream here. Have what you want and don't feel the need to make anybody else understand it.

Quote: Originally Posted by soccergurl3 We are having a hige problem with money too! We have a two year old son and everyone expects us to pay for their trip...I think it is absolutely ridiculous...we should just elope and send them all a video in the mail !!! Ask them what they are smoking, and get them to send me some.